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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.dotkam.com/2009/06/24/what-is-the-best-java-web-framework/comment-page-2/#comment-4516</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing Wicket to Spring MVC is OK. Spring MVC is not component-oriented. Wicket is component-oriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing Wicket to Spring MVC is OK. Spring MVC is not component-oriented. Wicket is component-oriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Toly</title>
		<link>http://www.dotkam.com/2009/06/24/what-is-the-best-java-web-framework/comment-page-2/#comment-4512</link>
		<dc:creator>Toly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex,

Notice that I compare Wicket to Spring &lt;b&gt;MVC&lt;/b&gt;, and not to the whole Spring Zoo.

As to Halloween, it is a holiday, where people wear costumes and party a lot, which is a lot of fun =&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=don&#039;t%20be%20hatin&quot;&gt;don&#039;t be hatin&lt;/a&gt;, participatin :)

/Toly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex,</p>
<p>Notice that I compare Wicket to Spring <b>MVC</b>, and not to the whole Spring Zoo.</p>
<p>As to Halloween, it is a holiday, where people wear costumes and party a lot, which is a lot of fun =&gt; <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=don't%20be%20hatin">don&#8217;t be hatin</a>, participatin <img src='http://www.dotkam.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>/Toly</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.dotkam.com/2009/06/24/what-is-the-best-java-web-framework/comment-page-2/#comment-4511</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 05:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Toly We can compare Wicket an Spring because there is something in common. We may not consider Wicket as an alternative to Spring because Spring covers more things. If you drop Spring and use Wicket in your development then you will most probably have to involve some more solutions to substitute Spring. 

I liked the joke about Hamlets framework. Read more at http://hamlets.sourceforge.net/

Let the halloween go to hell where it belongs. My church does not approve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Toly We can compare Wicket an Spring because there is something in common. We may not consider Wicket as an alternative to Spring because Spring covers more things. If you drop Spring and use Wicket in your development then you will most probably have to involve some more solutions to substitute Spring. </p>
<p>I liked the joke about Hamlets framework. Read more at <a href="http://hamlets.sourceforge.net/">http://hamlets.sourceforge.net/</a></p>
<p>Let the halloween go to hell where it belongs. My church does not approve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Prince of Denmark</title>
		<link>http://www.dotkam.com/2009/06/24/what-is-the-best-java-web-framework/comment-page-2/#comment-4503</link>
		<dc:creator>Prince of Denmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I created the hamlets framework to develop websites in a very short time. It is a Java framework, easy to use, and easy to understand (in 20 min.). You can leverage your Java skills and your Java libs. Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I created the hamlets framework to develop websites in a very short time. It is a Java framework, easy to use, and easy to understand (in 20 min.). You can leverage your Java skills and your Java libs. Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Toly</title>
		<link>http://www.dotkam.com/2009/06/24/what-is-the-best-java-web-framework/comment-page-2/#comment-4496</link>
		<dc:creator>Toly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex,

    Yes, you said that: &lt;em&gt;&quot;It is not right to take Wicket and Spring as alternatives. Wicket is practically about presentation layer. Spring is valued for its IoC that belongs to business layer. On the other hand in presentation domain Spring by itself is just nothing.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

    There is an &quot;Older Comments&quot; button right under the last comment. Comments paginate after 50 somm.

Happy Halloween,
/Toly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex,</p>
<p>    Yes, you said that: <em>&#8220;It is not right to take Wicket and Spring as alternatives. Wicket is practically about presentation layer. Spring is valued for its IoC that belongs to business layer. On the other hand in presentation domain Spring by itself is just nothing.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>    There is an &#8220;Older Comments&#8221; button right under the last comment. Comments paginate after 50 somm.</p>
<p>Happy Halloween,<br />
/Toly</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.dotkam.com/2009/06/24/what-is-the-best-java-web-framework/comment-page-2/#comment-4495</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@eric - what is this comment about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@eric &#8211; what is this comment about?</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.dotkam.com/2009/06/24/what-is-the-best-java-web-framework/comment-page-2/#comment-4493</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 07:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good catch, the best is the one that suits you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch, the best is the one that suits you</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.dotkam.com/2009/06/24/what-is-the-best-java-web-framework/comment-page-2/#comment-4446</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 07:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HybridJava version 1.05 released. Component-oriented support for Ajax added.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HybridJava version 1.05 released. Component-oriented support for Ajax added.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.dotkam.com/2009/06/24/what-is-the-best-java-web-framework/comment-page-2/#comment-4401</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I tell that Wicket can not be directly compared to Spring? The previous 52 messages have disappeared from your page. We can. They both solve the same problem, you are right. But Wicket is a component-oriented framework and  Spring MVC is not and that impacts its value very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I tell that Wicket can not be directly compared to Spring? The previous 52 messages have disappeared from your page. We can. They both solve the same problem, you are right. But Wicket is a component-oriented framework and  Spring MVC is not and that impacts its value very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Toly</title>
		<link>http://www.dotkam.com/2009/06/24/what-is-the-best-java-web-framework/comment-page-2/#comment-4400</link>
		<dc:creator>Toly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 03:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex,

    Spring MVC can be directly compared to Wicket, as they both solve the same problem of connecting domain (M) to the view (V) through a medium (C). Wicket has more of an MVP approach than MVC, but still solves the same problem.

    If you are building a &quot;web app&quot;, and it does not have to be Java, I would not even bother with Spring MVC directly, as there are tons of simpler alternatives ( Sinatra, Django, Webmachine, etc.. ). But if the language of your/your project&#039;s choice is Java, which is a great language by the way, then Spring MVC is just a natural choice for an MVC like simple web app.

/Anatoly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex,</p>
<p>    Spring MVC can be directly compared to Wicket, as they both solve the same problem of connecting domain (M) to the view (V) through a medium (C). Wicket has more of an MVP approach than MVC, but still solves the same problem.</p>
<p>    If you are building a &#8220;web app&#8221;, and it does not have to be Java, I would not even bother with Spring MVC directly, as there are tons of simpler alternatives ( Sinatra, Django, Webmachine, etc.. ). But if the language of your/your project&#8217;s choice is Java, which is a great language by the way, then Spring MVC is just a natural choice for an MVC like simple web app.</p>
<p>/Anatoly</p>
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